Hi, Spring fans! I just crossed 13 years on the Spring team! I just got to spend a lovely day in the presence of one of my heroes and friends, UL Systems founder and chairman, Shigeru Urushibara-san (@ulsystems), here in Tokyo, Japan, and in this episode, we sort of flip the script. We had a brief discussion where he interviewed me. If you want a great discussion where there's a ton to learn... then you might want to check out this episode where I interviewed him in 2021! Otherwise, listen on. Thank you, Urushibara-san! And thank you, everyone. Here's to another amazing 13 years!